De nikon D2x topic

[Adri H]

Re: De nikon D2x topic

Dit is omdat wanneer je een RAW foto neemt, je je kleurprofiel maar toewijst in je RAW converter, en als je in CS2 als profiel argb hebt staan, zal er ook een kleurfoto staan. Het zwart wit profiel van nikon geldt enkel en alleen voor jpg, tiff, en de previews van de raw file.

Wacht even, je schiet in B & W stand en aRGB dus een NEF die je in wel in kleur ziet , maar je kan er achteraf enkel een b&W foto uit trekken of niet

[Adri H]

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I know.

Then why didn't you tell so instead of confusing the issue

[RobMitchell]

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Then why didn't you tell so instead of confusing the issue

I did. Mr Sven suggested otherwise. I suggested he tried it before telling everyone it was no good.

Originally Posted by Svenmichiels View Post
NOOIT, de zwart/wit modus is eigenlijk greyscale.
Je camera gaat je kleurenfoto omzetten naar grijswaarden wat een groot verschil is met zwart-wit. Vrro zwart-wit foto's trek je de foto in kleur en zet hem om in PS.

A common mistake to make.

In fact, shooting in that BW mode is a pretty good idea. You can see areas of contrast in your shots a lot better that way.

[Adri H]

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Ok, my mistake
But to repose my question.. if you put the D2X in B&W mode and go for NEF, all you get is a colored NEF but you can only get a B&W pic out of it or is it also possible to extract color pics 'TIFF/JPEG) afterwards ?

[RobMitchell]

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Ok, my mistake
But to repose my question.. if you put the D2X in B&W mode and go for NEF, all you get is a colored NEF but you can only get a B&W pic out of it or is it also possible to extract color pics 'TIFF/JPEG) afterwards ?

I don't have Nikon Capture installed anymore, but maybe that sees you record the NEF in B/W mode so will display it on the PC in B/W. (maybe someone with NC can confirm this?)
I use C1 mostly, if I choose the option "restore settings" it stays in colour. The camera really stores the NEF as RGB and just displays it on the camera as the greyscale. All the colour info remains in the NEF. Result, you still process the colour image as normal, then have to post process it into B/W. For me, this is still the prefered method, allowing more contrast options in processing.
For those shooting directly to jpg, the in-camera processing will convert the RGB to greyscale for you. As Sven suggested, this isn't ideal. It's good, but can be better.

So as far as I see it in my RAX processing software, the NEF is always in colour, the software doesn't see that the I set the camera to "record" in B/W. So when using RAW format, images are always in colour, the B/W is totally up to the user and the post processing.

Curious if Nikon Capture does see that option, and actually display the NEF in the chosen colour pallet, in this case, B/W.

The Fuji does the same, RAW capture in B/W mode, and the images are processed in the software to display in full colour. It will be the same on all brands I would expect. Unless each brand's dedicated processing software detects this capture setting.

[Adri H]

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Can you just clarify what C1 is? I don't know all the editors out there - yet.
I use Nikon View for the moment and am pleased with it, but when I will crank out more pics (summer season) I will need something that can process a lot of pics fast, so I'm thinking of getting Nikon Capture by then.

[RobMitchell]

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Can you just clarify what C1 is? I don't know all the editors out there - yet.
I use Nikon View for the moment and am pleased with it, but when I will crank out more pics (summer season) I will need something that can process a lot of pics fast, so I'm thinking of getting Nikon Capture by then.

Sorry, C1 is 'Capture one' by Phase one. It was made specifically to process the images from their digital backs and quickly evolved into something that processes most camera RAW files. All except Kodak's format (Kodak was a serious rival for phase one)

I stopped using Nikon Capture because it was so slow.. Maybe the new versions and NX are faster.

[Svenmichiels]

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In fact, shooting in that BW mode is a pretty good idea. You can see areas of contrast in your shots a lot better that way.

Kan je dat eens nader verklaren?

thx

[Svenmichiels]

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I stopped using Nikon Capture because it was so slow.. Maybe the new versions and NX are faster.

Klop, maar jammer genoeg is de NX versie nog niets sneller

[RobMitchell]

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Kan je dat eens nader verklaren?

thx

Sven, all I can say, is try it out. Sometimes the colour information is irrelevant in a shot. Composition is. Areas and shapes of the tone and lighting are. The colours are going to be right anyway, We can't do much about that, we can control light, composition and tonal spread in an image.
By removing the colour from the LCD "preview" we look more at the image's shape and composition, rather that the colour or the grass, sky, etc.

I don't say you should do it all the time, but it is sometimes a nice way to view things.

[Adri H]

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Klop, maar jammer genoeg is de NX versie nog niets sneller

Heeft het dan zin hier 100+€ voor neer te tellen?
Wat gebruiken jullie om foto's te bewerken.
Ik zou graag bij Nikon blijven, is toch altijd het best lijkt me.

[frank207be]

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Sven, all I can say, is try it out. Sometimes the colour information is irrelevant in a shot. Composition is. Areas and shapes of the tone and lighting are. The colours are going to be right anyway, We can't do much about that, we can control light, composition and tonal spread in an image.
By removing the colour from the LCD "preview" we look more at the image's shape and composition, rather that the colour or the grass, sky, etc.

I don't say you should do it all the time, but it is sometimes a nice way to view things.

Dat vind ik absoluut een zeer goed idee Learn to see the light

MVG,

[Franciskine]

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Heeft het dan zin hier 100+€ voor neer te tellen?
Wat gebruiken jullie om foto's te bewerken.
Ik zou graag bij Nikon blijven, is toch altijd het best lijkt me.

Ik gebruik nog steeds Nikon Capture 4.4.2

[NoName]

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En ook ik gebruik nog steeds Nikon Capture 4.4.2 en ik heb de NX hier op mijn Comp staan, maar is langzaam en ik kan niet wennen aan de workfkow

[frank207be]

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En ook ik gebruik nog steeds Nikon Capture 4.4.2 en ik heb de NX hier op mijn Comp staan, maar is langzaam en ik kan niet wennen aan de workfkow

Idem hier. Ik gebruik NX voorlopig enkel voor de control points.

MVG